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Trillador
Servo della Gleba
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 Inserito il - 25/06/2009 : 16:24:47
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Hi people!!
I'm Rubén. I am spanish, from Tenerife, but now Im living in Poland.
Here I bough an UAZ 469b from 78', just one year before.This is my car:
These cars in Poland are in very bad condition, but also I was very unfortunated with mine.
The engine, the gearbox, the trnfer case and the body is in not bad conditions. But the chasis and the rear axle are distroyed. Now I'm thinking if I should repair it or sell it for spares.
My idea was to take the UAZ driving to Tenerife, but now that I could see the real conditions of it... I don't know what to do...
I have the chance to buy an UAZ-Martorelli with the engine 2.5TD peugeot, only has the diff broken. do you know wich final speed it has? wich gear box?
Tell me please your opinion about this isue.
Greetings from Szczecin, Poland
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Modificato da - Trillador in Data 25/06/2009 16:35:19
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Trillador
Servo della Gleba
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Inserito il - 25/06/2009 : 16:28:02
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I forgot!! this is the the problem of te chasis (frame):
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mauz
Commissario Politico
Premio Komandirski 2006
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Inserito il - 25/06/2009 : 16:39:47
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The frame is in very bad conditions  |
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Stefano
Kolchoziano
Premio Sputnik 2007
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Inserito il - 25/06/2009 : 16:58:41
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How is possible that the chassis is in these terrible conditions? Maybe the Uaz was immersed into the water for many years? You of course know that the Uaz has a chassis like a truck!! |
La Uaz e', e deve essere, un punto di arrivo, non di partenza. La mia tira 65 quintali. |
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Kaz-Uaz
Servo della Gleba
39 Messaggi |
 Inserito il - 26/06/2009 : 05:00:18
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| In Kz people says that the salt putted on the roads in winter eat the cars...maybe can be this...but better to put salt then leave ice 6 months a year! |
Aktau (KZ) - Milano su un Uaz 3909 (Uaz Van)? I've a Dream!!!
IL KAZAKHSTAN NUOCE GRAVEMENTE ALLA SALUTE! |
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MONSTROHOD
Servo della Gleba
185 Messaggi |
Inserito il - 26/06/2009 : 07:00:06
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>How is possible that the chassis is in these terrible conditions?
I think the car was submerged in swamp mud then the sand with clay stayed inside the chassis accumulating dew which destroyed the chassis.
Well.... it's a 30 year old car and it was used in Northern climate with snow and salt on the roads.
My chassis were rotten too, I first welded it but then when opportunity came up, replaced it. Now the new chassis are primed with epoxy primer, sprayed with polyurethane paint and coated with resin to protect from gravel wear. Inside sprayed with "Rust stop" preservatives. |
- 1986 UAZ 3151 2.5L BFG MT 35"
- 2008 UAZ Patriot |
Modificato da - MONSTROHOD in data 26/06/2009 07:20:55 |
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Trillador
Servo della Gleba
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Inserito il - 26/06/2009 : 11:17:10
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Hi again!
of course the polish winter is very hard and the salt destroy every car, but I didn“t see a chassis like this before... you know, I'm from Canari Islands, our winter is quite soft 
But is very possible that happened that MONSTROHOD say, because when I was last week "digging in the hole" was folling down a lot of sand from inside...
One more thing, can you tell me where can I find information about the UAZ-MARTORELLI with 2.5TD Peugeot engine?
I'll add more pictures about the reparing in next week |
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Kaz-Uaz
Servo della Gleba
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Inserito il - 26/06/2009 : 13:44:49
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For avoid this problems one guy from management suggest to use gas flake and spry paint we use for subsea parts of platforms...hahaha...amazing...I hope it will be possible. |
Aktau (KZ) - Milano su un Uaz 3909 (Uaz Van)? I've a Dream!!!
IL KAZAKHSTAN NUOCE GRAVEMENTE ALLA SALUTE! |
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Trillador
Servo della Gleba
12 Messaggi |
Inserito il - 09/07/2009 : 13:41:46
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After one week working in the car I have allready the car profitient again.
First I changed the rear axle. I did it because (as I told before) the last owner changed the final drive and I had two different speeds in both axles 
And, I decided to take a look how was the old axle inside, and this is what I saw:
As you can see it missed the bearing in the pinion of the conic pair.
And the marks of the first pinion when it broke.
I already make the flat in the cilinders head and I fix the new gashket also for colector:
Now is working, but I have to regulate the valves and some other little things |
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Kolikov
Dissidente (moderatore)
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Inserito il - 09/07/2009 : 22:06:52
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The old axle was in really bad condition 
Did you grind out 0,6mm from the head? I made 3mm for use with 95 RON benzin. |
"Ukraina 2007 by Uaz" in carovana con Max120L !
Il miglior meccanico della tua Uaz... sei TU! ;-) |
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MONSTROHOD
Servo della Gleba
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Inserito il - 10/07/2009 : 07:40:27
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>I already make the flat in the cilinders head and I fix the new gashket also for colector:
What is the height of your cylinder head? In order to take advantage of modern high octane regular unleaded petrol, it is better to increase compression ratio by shaving 3.5mm off the cylinder head and making it 94.5mm high.
BTW, I do not see shock absorbers on the photos. Your car is very old and mounts on the axles are for old "arm type" shocks but they seem to be missing.
>I made 3mm for use with 95 RON benzin.
I made 4mm and still use 92. |
- 1986 UAZ 3151 2.5L BFG MT 35"
- 2008 UAZ Patriot |
Modificato da - MONSTROHOD in data 10/07/2009 12:12:05 |
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Kolikov
Dissidente (moderatore)
2217 Messaggi |
Inserito il - 10/07/2009 : 08:38:52
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Citazione:
Messaggio inserito da MONSTROHOD
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>I made 3mm for use with 95 RON benzin.
I made 4mm and still use 92.
You made even better than me! Here they said I am crazy grinding out 3mm  |
"Ukraina 2007 by Uaz" in carovana con Max120L !
Il miglior meccanico della tua Uaz... sei TU! ;-) |
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MONSTROHOD
Servo della Gleba
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Inserito il - 10/07/2009 : 12:11:26
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>You made even better than me! Here they said I am crazy grinding out 3mm
That's because THEY are used to smaller engines (meaning engines with smaller cylinders) For instance in a 1.6L 4-cylinder or 2.5L 6-cylinder you'd only mill 1.5-2mm in order to switch from 76 to 92 octane. However, stock factory UAZ cylinder head for 92 octane is 94.5mm high and stock 76 octane cylinder head is 98mm. |
- 1986 UAZ 3151 2.5L BFG MT 35"
- 2008 UAZ Patriot |
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Trillador
Servo della Gleba
12 Messaggi |
Inserito il - 11/07/2009 : 14:33:32
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Yeah!
This car has in the front axle the arm type shocks, but in the back there is only one, in the left side, exactly where the hole is!!! so, I will not use it for now. Moreover the new axle has the supports (home made) for the telescopic shocks. So, I'll make the supports in the chasis when I'll re-make it.
I didn't know that I should low the bulckhead more for the actual petrol. I checked right now and it is about 96 high.
What about the LPG? will work the same?
The another UAZ that I hope to buy in next month is the UAZ-Martorelli wich has 2.5TD Peugeot. The owner told me that it has only a problem: the rear diff is broken. I think he means the coninc couple (final drive) ædo you know wich ratio it has?
Thank you for your answer and your help!!
greetings!!
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Kolikov
Dissidente (moderatore)
2217 Messaggi |
Inserito il - 11/07/2009 : 15:00:55
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If your the cylinder head is 96mm, this means it was already grinded about 2mm. If you grind the head the compression ratio raise and the engine will perform a little more power.
LPG is about 100 octane, so no problem with raising the compression ratio. |
"Ukraina 2007 by Uaz" in carovana con Max120L !
Il miglior meccanico della tua Uaz... sei TU! ;-) |
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DoctorUaz
Agente KGB
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Inserito il - 11/07/2009 : 15:42:37
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Hello, Martorelli has never produced a UAZ 2500TD peugeot, engines used were:
2100cc
2300cc
2500cc
all diesel peugeot
a 2100 12 valve diesel peugeot
and the 2400 and 2500 cc VM Turbo diesel, this engine is very powerful, but delicate heads for this engine, Martorelli, made in Italy to do a longer 4:36 that there is no more.
Sorry for the translation but do not speak English. |
La Uaz č bella perche te la puoi fare su misura....purtroppo il cumulo di pezzi aumenta ma la uaz non prende forma. |
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Trillador
Servo della Gleba
12 Messaggi |
Inserito il - 11/07/2009 : 15:55:01
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thanks Kolikov! I'll try to grind out it when I'll renovate the whole car.
Now I'm trying to solve a problem.
Since the last two times before the reparation of the cylinder head (the engine was working mixing water and oil) I noted that the engine couldn't get high revs and was failing making little pullings.
I thought that is just residues in the candlesticks because of the mixing...
But after repairing it's still failing, I though first that the regulation of the valves was the problem, so I regulated them... I changed the spark plugs yesterday (I could find the original A14 of the oldest model like mine) but the problem was not solved.
Any Idea?
Today I'm changing the oil (maybe it has a little of cooling fluid) and the oil filter, and cleaning the lubrication system with an engine flush... |
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Trillador
Servo della Gleba
12 Messaggi |
Inserito il - 11/07/2009 : 16:04:50
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Hi DoctorUAZ!
I understand perfectly what you wrote, so don't be shy!
Now I see, the engine is Peugeot 2.500cc, but not turbo.
Where can I find information of the final drive and gear box?
Citazione:
Messaggio inserito da DoctorUaz
Hello, Martorelli has never produced a UAZ 2500TD peugeot, engines used were:
2100cc
2300cc
2500cc
all diesel peugeot
a 2100 12 valve diesel peugeot
and the 2400 and 2500 cc VM Turbo diesel, this engine is very powerful, but delicate heads for this engine, Martorelli, made in Italy to do a longer 4:36 that there is no more.
Sorry for the translation but do not speak English.
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DoctorUaz
Agente KGB
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Inserito il - 11/07/2009 : 17:09:30
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Of course I know, or I would not be "DOCTORUAZ "....... hahahahahaa
The diesel peugeot UAZ, UAZ is a gas which Martorelli, just changed the engine with diesel
then there are only two types
41-8 ratio 5125 (gearbox not synchronized)
37-8 ratio 4.6 (gearbox synchronized) |
La Uaz č bella perche te la puoi fare su misura....purtroppo il cumulo di pezzi aumenta ma la uaz non prende forma. |
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DoctorUaz
Agente KGB
8509 Messaggi |
Inserito il - 11/07/2009 : 17:16:20
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In Poland, you can change is approved and the chassis, the engine, so long as that use diesel engines mercedes, you can also find the kit to change, I'll board the 300D 5-cylinder of the old W123 |
La Uaz č bella perche te la puoi fare su misura....purtroppo il cumulo di pezzi aumenta ma la uaz non prende forma. |
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DoctorUaz
Agente KGB
8509 Messaggi |
Inserito il - 11/07/2009 : 17:43:37
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Sprzedam sinik 4C90 Andoria z #379;uka po przebiegu 68 ty#347;. Silnik by#322; szykowany dla siebie do uaza. Wymienione wszystkie uszczelki, przewody, filtry oraz olej. Rozrusznik po regeneracji. Kolektor wylotowy z bocznym wyj#347;ciem przystosowanym do uaza. ( nie trzeba nic podcina#263; czy przerabia#263; ). Posiadam równie#380; rur#281; wydechow#261; orygina#322; uaz-andoria. Tel 605 450 011.
rocznik: 2000
rodzaj paliwa: diesel
pojemno#347;#263; silnika: 2.4 l
cena: 2100.00 PLN
wojewodztwo: mazowieckie
miasto: Warszawa
kontakt: Czarek
email: kabi14@wp.pl
tel.: 605 450 011
przedam skrzyni#281; biegów z reduktorem, sprawn#261;. Obudow#281; sprz#281;g#322;a UAZ-MB 123,
b#322;otniki przednie, piasty, kule,zwrotnice,wa#322;y,pó#322;osie ty#322;,przedni#261; praw#261;, mechanizmy ró#380;nicowe,wentylator 8 #322;opatowy z wo#322;gi,obudow#281; sprz#281;g#322;a z wo#322;gi,cz#281;#347;ci hamulcowe i inne drobiazgi.
rocznik: 2000
rodzaj paliwa: b.d.
pojemno#347;#263; silnika: b.d.
cena: 0.00 PLN
wojewodztwo: #347;l#261;skie
miasto: b.d.
kontakt: Krzychu
email: krzychusc@o2.pl
tel.: 507445502
Rama kompletna z zdn wyczyszczona zakonserwowana mosty z ma#322;ym przebiegiem po remo#324;cie uk#322;ad hamulcowy zarejestrowany op#322;acony mia#322; by#263; remontowany ale karoseria da#322;a plame . Posiadam jeszcze inne nowe oraz u#380;ywane cz#281;#347;ci blachy oraz podzespo#322;y mechaniczne .
rocznik: 1989
rodzaj paliwa: b.d.
pojemno#347;#263; silnika: b.d.
cena: 2500.00 PLN
wojewodztwo: ma#322;opolskie
miasto: Jordanów
kontakt: Bartek
email: poczta@gaz-serwis4x4.com.pl
tel.: 0-606-591-696
Rama kompletna z zdn wyczyszczona zakonserwowana mosty z ma#322;ym przebiegiem po remo#324;cie uk#322;ad hamulcowy zarejestrowany op#322;acony mia#322; by#263; remontowany ale karoseria da#322;a plame . Posiadam jeszcze inne nowe oraz u#380;ywane cz#281;#347;ci blachy oraz podzespo#322;y mechaniczne .
rocznik: 1989
rodzaj paliwa: b.d.
pojemno#347;#263; silnika: b.d.
cena: 2500.00 PLN
wojewodztwo: ma#322;opolskie
miasto: Jordanów
kontakt: Bartek
email: poczta@gaz-serwis4x4.com.pl
tel.: 0-606-591-696
andoria 4c90 silnik stan oceniam na bdb wymontowany z #380;uka chyba 98 r. idealnie pasuje do uaza gaza itp w komplecie sprz#281;g#322;o, rozrusznik. Alternator jest ale uszkodzony (p#281;kni#281;ta obudowa) silnik odpala na dotyk. jest to chyba jeden z ostatnich #380;uków ma norm#281; EURO 1. Istnieje mo#380;liwo#347;#263; (za dodatkow#261; op#322;at#261;) zamontowania w uazie.
rocznik: 1998
rodzaj paliwa: diesel
pojemno#347;#263; silnika: 2.5 l
cena: 2500.00 PLN
wojewodztwo: lubelskie
miasto: Józefów
kontakt: Jarek
email: kowalow@vp.pl
tel.: 602257906 |
La Uaz č bella perche te la puoi fare su misura....purtroppo il cumulo di pezzi aumenta ma la uaz non prende forma. |
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Trillador
Servo della Gleba
12 Messaggi |
Inserito il - 11/07/2009 : 19:23:42
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Hey!! very useful information!
now I can find the parts that I need for repair the another UAZ in Spain
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Trillador
Servo della Gleba
12 Messaggi |
 Inserito il - 20/10/2009 : 12:59:08
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Finnally I sold the Car :(
I'm home, Canary islands and I'm dreaming about to buy an UAZ again.
By the way I'm driving my Discovery 200tdy and renovating a Defender 110 and a Forward Control from 60's...
After UAZ the best would be Land Rover ;)
Greetings! |
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MONSTROHOD
Servo della Gleba
185 Messaggi |
Inserito il - 12/11/2009 : 07:39:39
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| Does this mean that it was impossible to bring your UAZ from Poland to Spain? |
- 1986 UAZ 3151 2.5L BFG MT 35"
- 2008 UAZ Patriot |
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Trillador
Servo della Gleba
12 Messaggi |
Inserito il - 23/12/2009 : 21:18:17
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| yeah! was impossible and and just trying could be dangerous. |
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